An ex-boyfriend of Julie Swetnick’s says that the Brett Kavanaugh accuser never talked about being gang-raped but she did tell him about how she liked to have sex with multiple men at a time.
Dennis Ketterer, a former Democratic candidate for Congress, said in a statement that the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Republican chairman shared with reporters, that a conversation with Swetnick ‘derailed’ when she revealed that she ‘liked to have sex with more than one guy at a time.’
‘In fact sometimes with several at one time. She wanted to know if that would be OK in our relationship,’ he said. ‘I asked her if this was just a fantasy of hers. She responded that she first tried sex with multiple guys while in high school and still liked it from time-to-time.’
Ketterer is also a former weatherman for WJLA in Washington, D.C.
Julie Swetnick gave her first sit-down interview on Monday in which she admitted that she cannot be sure Brett Kavanaugh was among the boys she says raped her at a party in the 80s
Swetnick’s attorney, Michael Avanatti, the lawyer who is also repping Stormy Daniels in her suit against the president, hit back almost immediately on Twitter.
‘The letter from Dennis Ketterer is garbage – the GOP is desperate. The allegations he makes are false and without any basis,’ he said. ‘We demand that the FBI interview my client & him, and that anyone found to have submitted false info be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.’
Avenatti demanded that the Senate Judiciary Committee direct the FBI to interview Swetnick in an email to aides that he screen grabbed and tweeted.
Dennis Ketterer, a former weatherman for WJLA in Washington, D.C., says that Swetnick told him while they were dating she liked to have sex with multiple men at a time
Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Republican head of the panel, said in a response statement that he would allow the FBI to do its work unimpeded.
‘I’m confident that the FBI agents tasked with this responsibility will not succumb to public political pressure or politicians telling the agency how to do its job,’ he wrote. ‘Respectfully, the career public servants and professionals at the FBI know what they’re doing and how best to conduct a background investigation. The FBI’s business should be carried out independent of political or partisan considerations.’
Swetnick said in a bombshell interview on Monday that night she cannot be sure Kavanaugh was among the boys she accuses of gang raping her at a house party in the 1980s although she suspects that he was.
The 55-year-old who had previously said in a sworn statement that she was gang-raped and that Kavanaugh and his friends liked to drug girls told NBC on Monday night that she is sure Kavanaugh was at the party and nearby when the alleged attack took place but never actually witnessed him engage in sexual misconduct.
Swetnick also claimed to have witnessed Kavanaugh groping girls and pushing them against walls at similar house parties, which she says he attended alongside long-time friend Mark Judge. She says she never returned to the house parties that she says she attended when she was in community college after her own alleged assault.
President Trump did not say whether he had watched her interview as he spoke to reporters on Tuesday.
He told DailyMail.com in response to another question about the allegations, ‘Well, it’s a tough thing going on. You can be an exemplary person for 35 years. And then somebody comes and they say you did this or that; and they give three witnesses; and the three witnesses, at this point, do not corroborate what you were saying, that’s a very scary situation, where you’re guilty until proven innocent.’
The interview was Swetnick’s first formal sit-down, other than a segment on Showtime’s ‘The Circus’ program, since coming forward as one of Kavanaugh’s accusers in a written statement.
In the conversation with NBC’s Kate Snow, she said she had graduated high school and was at community college when she began attending house parties where she met Kavanaugh.
She says she remembers meeting him because of his ‘distinctive face’ and claims she recognized him because he was wearing a Georgetown Prep uniform.
While at the parties, she claims he was often drunk and often inappropriate around women, including ‘pawing’ at them, trying to ‘shift’ clothing, and ‘groping’ them.
‘I saw him push girls into walls,’ she said. ‘He would pretend to be drunk and stumble and push them against walls.’
Swetnick said she would often see Kavanaugh hanging around in groups of boys outside bedrooms at these parties, laughing and joking together.
At the time, she says she thought nothing of the behavior – until the night she was allegedly gang-raped.
Now she believes the boys were waiting in turns to attack women she says were inside the rooms.
But Swetnick was adamant that she met Kavanaugh, that she saw him grope girls and push them against walls at other parties, and that he was present the night she was attacked
Swetnick is the third woman to identify herself as an alleged victim of Kavanaugh, after Christine Blasey Ford (left) accused him of trying to rape her at a party, while Deborah Ramirez (right) said he exposed himself to her at a party
Describing her own attack, she said she remembers feeling unwell before being pushed into a room and having her clothes torn off by multiple boys.
‘I was touched everywhere, physically assaulted in every way you can physically assault a woman,’ she said. ‘What happened to me is probably the most horrendous, awful thing that can happen to a human being.
Swetnick said: ‘My body was violated, my soul was broken. To not able to have someone stop when I said “no, stop”…
‘I felt like someone took me and said you are worthless, you are nothing to us, you are disposable.’
Ketterer dashed cold water on her credibility in a statement that Grassley sent to reporters late Tuesday afternoon. He says that she never spoke about the alleged incident to him when they dated in the ’90s and that she indicated in their conversations that she enjoyed having sex with multiple men at a time.
‘Julie never said anything about being sexually assaulted, raped, gang-raped or having sex against her will. She never mentioned Brett Kavanaugh in any capacity,’ he said.
The ex-politician and meteorologist suggested that Swetnick is a liar.
‘[B]ased on my direct experience with Julie, I do not believe her allegations against Mr. Kavanaugh,’ he asserted.
Ketterer said that he is sensitive to the issue of sexual assault because he is himself a victim of of child molestation.
‘I know what it’s like to be sexually assaulted and not be believed. I was 9 years old when it happened at the hands of my grandfather’s best friend,’ his statement read.
Michael Avenatti, the lawyer for Stormy Daniels, is also representing Swetnick and brought her allegations forward in a written statement
Kavanaugh’s nomination has been paused for a week while the FBI conducts a background check to see if there is any truth to Ford’s claims
Swetnick told NBC in the interview that aired on Monday that she cannot be sure that Kavanaugh was among the attackers but says she remembers him hanging around in the area where she started feeling unwell, and remembers hearing him laughing along with others.
She claims she told her mother – who is now deceased – about the attack and that she reported her rape to the Montgomery County Police department.
NBC says Swetnick provided the name of an officer who she spoke to – also deceased – and a spokesman confirmed that an officer by that name worked there around the time she says she was gang-raped.
Officers agreed to check records to see whether a report was filed, but said it may take up to a month to respond.
Of the four other people named by Swetnick as possible corroborating witnesses, NBC said one is also dead, two refused to speak and the last said he does not remember the parties described or ever meeting her.
Kavanaugh also said he has never met Swetnick and called her allegations fabricated and like something out of the ‘Twilight Zone.’ He denied her claims and those of two other women during a Capitol Hill hearing.
Swetnick is one of three women to accuse Kavanaugh of inappropriate behavior dating back to the 1980s.
Christine Blasey Ford testified at the same hearing last week about another party where she claims Kavanaugh pushed her into a bedroom and tried to rape her.
Meanwhile, Deborah Ramirez says Kavanaugh exposed himself to her at a third house party when they were in college.
Kavanaugh’s nomination process is on hold while the FBI investigates the claims, including the one from Ramirez.
However, Swetnick was not on a list of initial interviewees, contributing to allegations that the White House has sought to limit the scope of the probe.
President Trump has denied this, saying agents are free to interview whoever they deem fit – though the investigation into his nominee should last no longer than a week.